Hi I'm new to Aveva Engineering.
What is the advantage to implement Aveva Engineering to PDMS (for example)? As far as gathered from Aveva product information, it stores Tagged items, probably all the data sheet of these items. Like Equipment information, seal pots, etc.. Other tagged item may be valves, control valves, special items, Eductors and more. It that the only capability of Aveva Engineering can do?
If I have customised TEE (bar tee), piping components and related items, will this application help to control it?
Appreciate you guys for input so that I have a clear mind what is to expect using Engineering.
This module gives opportunity to
fill properties for elements from different disciplines +
track changes +
output (even with C#customization) reports like datasheets and etc.
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Roughly said it is so. It looks like MS excel to some extent and communicates with MS excel. But since the data are in dabacon database they can be used and managed in much faster and efficient way as in one external program like excel. The time for integrated engineering comes, slowly but it comes finally. To have engineering data, catalog data, standards, data from different vendors under one roof, gives a lot of advantages and opportunities to build a system that will be more complex, but definitely more efficient and more intelligent than before.
Companies should rethink about Aveva Engineering, the most important thing is to understand why they want to use this program , if they want to have excel in dabacon database, then they should not use Aveva Engineering for sure. :-)
[QUOTE=Navigator;104713]To have engineering data, catalog data, standards, data from different vendors under one roof, gives a lot of advantages and opportunities to build a system that will be more complex, but definitely more efficient and more intelligent than before.
Companies should rethink about Aveva Engineering, the most important thing is to understand why they want to use this program , if they want to have excel in dabacon database, then they should not use Aveva Engineering for sure. :-)
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Hi Navigator, me_humgry, and Kubik
Thank you for responding.
I want to know more about "catalog data", how can they be used more efficiently? Do you mean that different type of make of steel shapes, or piping components, etc. can be managed using Engineering? And what do you mean by "build a system that will be more complex"? Do you mean how to related a business model function or just implementations of Engineering Principles, like standard type of materials, branch tables, rules of usage etc...?
Where I'm coming from is a blank page, and hope to gather more information so that I can implement Engineering that have only PDMS information. I hope to know if Engineering will assist us in building up a knowledge base and intelligent system that we can use with in the company. At the same time to build in a typical business model of how things works in an organization. Like a logical rule or options for selection of types of equipment or type of materials for piping components.
Your suggestions will be helpful.
Thank you in advance.
Nerdy..
Well let me put it this way. Aveva as some other companies bid, of try to bid integrated engineering packages, that means not only 3D Tool such as PDMS(E3D) but also Application to store and manage engineering data, diagrams and so on. Normally there are three main pillars in integrated engineering, 3D data, engineering data , and diagrams, if one company has all three in one system, then the system can be controlled, quality enhanced, work without interruptions , or let me say holes in the system, and these holes or gaps always make problems and are source of majority of problems during the planning process.
Catalog in engineering databases together with programs for automatic catalogue (CATA) creation and additionally for SPEC creation save a lot of time and money. Also data from known vendors in one such a system allows to automate processes such a procurement, purchase, control, schedule checks...
Engineering data in form of various UDA-s can be stored in Engineering and propagated on need into PDMS or some other programs , there is no need to manage attributes in PDMS except native PDMS attributes that are important only for layout so for 3D. Results of the calculations performed in some dedicated programs can be stored in Engineering and managed further , so the same story as with UDA-s.
[QUOTE=Navigator;104789]Catalog in engineering databases together with programs for automatic catalogue (CATA) creation and additionally for SPEC creation save a lot of time and money. Also data from known vendors in one such a system allows to automate processes such a procurement, purchase, control, schedule checks...
Hi Navigator,
Thank you for your input. You had given a good head start for me to develop and collect information using Engineering.
You mentioned about Catalog and some automation, do we have to write programs to make that happen?
Looks like we can build mechanism logically with the data collected to form up useful information. I believe company business model can be built in this to let it store and manage them.
I started to get some working solution from them. Sure there are some features that is in it that we can use and adopt as part of a workflow.
I also agree with you that it's a massive amount of information and cannot be covered in a simple thread. At least it will give a clear start for those who are interested and willing to share knowledge here.
