yup already do it .
assumption ,flg1+gsk+vlv+gsk+flg2.
default bsel on spec was 'A'
insert bsel 'W' on flg1 and valv it will appear spref from Bsel W but on flg2 will miss bolt.
insert bsel 'W' on flg1 ,it will appear spref from Bsel A on flg2 but on flg1 will miss bolt.
are any possible we can put two type bsel on Valve?
BSEL must be the same on both ends to be valid (as per user guide). I encounter this scenario before, what I did was I create a copy of Flange (Catalog and SPEC) with different BLRFARRAY. I will make the BTYPE of its BLRFARRAY different from the default. Example BTYPE is EXTN, then add a SELECTION with the EXTN Btype as the answer in bolt spec and place the bolt SPCO there.
There may be better solution than this but I choose this one since the Modeler will only select the appropriate flange and no need to modify the BSEL.
from your explanation cutesmile ,its like you make a special flange.
its similar like old method create spco with different bltref.
i just think ,in new method that a option BSEL.
[QUOTE=rian;102878]yup already do it .
assumption ,flg1+gsk+vlv+gsk+flg2.
default bsel on spec was 'A'
insert bsel 'W' on flg1 and valv it will appear spref from Bsel W but on flg2 will miss bolt.
insert bsel 'W' on flg1 ,it will appear spref from Bsel A on flg2 but on flg1 will miss bolt.
are any possible we can put two type bsel on Valve?
regards
rian
Ok rian
I got it.
One possible solution:
You know that at BTSE (or BLTP) level you can specify bolt length using one (or more) category parameter (expressions are accepted).
This will one of the factors that will affect the total length calculation.
Let's say that you set that bolt length to something like PARA2 + DESPARA1
In Design, if DESPARA1 of FLANGE is set to ZERO, then you will get normal total length.
If you need a longer total length you just need to change DESPARA1 to, let's say, 50mm
Hope this make sense to you.....and most of all.....I hope it will work!
;-)
[QUOTE=rian;102881]from your explanation cutesmile ,its like you make a special flange.
its similar like old method create spco with different bltref.
i just think ,in new method that a option BSEL.
yes, you are right. it like the old method (only a suggestion :05.18-flustered:) since BSEL will be same in both ends so in your case, the other side of the valve will have mismatch BSEL so bolt will not show. maybe you can try Corrado's suggestion to have additional parameter for the bolt length.
thanks all for advise .
its works with corrado explanation for extralength.
another assumption how if different type bolting use.
are any condition to be use for BSEL?
flg 1 will use CS material bolt + insulation Gasket + valve SS + gask + flg2 will use SS material bolt
maybe you can also try to use design parameter for the BTYP to select the second set of bolt in the valve as it cannot use BSEL for that case based on my experience.
I have followed the way we have discussed in other post and it works but now priority of choosing specific BTYPe is not working as I am getting same BOLT both side of Valve.
I have assigned BTYP to BTSE as BOLT and Other as Stud and Referred both to the Scom of FLange.
[QUOTE=pitch;48965]Thought I had covered this before but I can't find the post.
The answer is to use 2 SBOLs
One for your standard bolt and a second for the Insulation bolt.
Add the additional lengths for washers etc to the XTRA of BITL of the second SBOL.
In the BOLT spec you have an entry for standard bolt with BSEL set to DEF and BLTREF to the standard SBOL
Make a second entry identical to the previous but with a :suffix to the speco name and BSEL set to ISO (or whatever) and BLTREF set to the Insulation SBOL
Make sure that you set the Deault BSEL to DEF in the spec header.
In design where you require insulation sets you set the BSEL of the Flanges Valves , wafers,etc to ISO (or whatever)
This switches Isodraft to the Insulation Bolt for the length calculation
hi pitch
does this method work only for new bolting or will this work with old bolting method as well....
