GLOBAL Issue!!!

De,
You are correct. It would be more easy to be in Norway to solve this, but on the contrary it is more challenging to try to solve all problems here on the forum. I like challenges.

Harry,
Do you mean distribution in the same office, or distribution via global to other locations. Just so I don't understand your question wrong.

Hi,

What I mean to say is before Jumping on to Global concept, I would like to setup PDMS in my office in a consistent way or locally in other words.
Now, what my question was, suppose 15 users are working simultaneously on their respective workstations on the same/different database present at the server side and so the database is also updating dynamically and so I would like to know whether going for Extracts /user is a good concept or should I put each database / user.
I hope you understand now and let me know how to go about it.

/harry

If I were you, I'd try to stay away from extracts as much as I can.
In this case I would suggest you set up own databases for each area/discipline. Many users can work in the same database if you have set access mode to Multiwrite.

I normally thrust that the designers dont delete each others work, so I let many users have access to the same databases. They can then work in different SITEs/ZONEs as required in the same database.

But if you feel that each user would need his/her own database, it's your call.
I would not do it, as it would create a lot of extra admin work and no real benefit unless you need very strikt control of where the users are working.

Alright Thomas,

I will do what you have suggested.
Now, As far as Local environment setup is concerned, I feel everything is fully explained and convincing or if anything if you would like to suggest from your side regarding anything related to the Local Environment setup or Admin, please let me know and if not, should we jump to global concept now...

/harry

Hi,

Well done :sweat:

There are two things I need to know before we go to the global part.
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Do you have any global satellite licenses at your place(It helps when setting up the project, as everything can be done locally. 1 satellite license is enough).
Do you have master dbs included as foreign dbs into the project?. It is not possible to include databases from a local project into a global project, so if your catalogue project is included(and only local) it must be made global too.
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Hi

Well well well....I need some guidance regarding the same...
I have asked my people and what they have said was that we have got a global Hub license but I would like to know whether it's the same what u r asking for or something different and Is it important to have.
Second thing is I am totally unaware about the second thing.Could you please help me in revealing the informtion you have asked.

/harry

OK,

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It is not required, but I normally set up everything locally before sending out any project to another location, just to make sure everything works. I normally initialise the new location on my workstation, and set everything up before sending anything out of the office. Global has different licenses for satellite and Hub.
You have catalogue databases in your project, right? Are the catalogue databases included from another project, or are they made in the project you just created(local catalogue databases)?
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Let me chime in my $0.2 - my advice are more expensive that Cvitte's $0.02:_:

Harry, before your company jump into Global, you need to step back and think about the following things:

1. Is it really needed?  How often do you need data exchange?  Few times a day so that the structural guy in Norway can see the piping design in Houston?  Or is design mostly done in main office, then the construction in remote area needs to view it?  Does you satellite need read/write access to the project or viewing only, generate ISOs on site?  Can they get away with using Naviswork or some sort of viewing software in your satellite office?

2. Cost - license is not cheap, and administrative cost, such as you need to learn how to use it - not difficult, you are 80% there with Thomas' help.  How about satellite admin, someone there need to know a little about PDMS admin, you may need help now and then, just in case.

3. IT set up cost - someone needs to get firewall opened, RPC port opened etc etc.  To date this is still voodoo to me, maybe Global user manual documented it but you will need IT from your main office to tell IT from the Satellite office - sounds easy but in real life this will add days if not weeks to your implementation while you pull your hair out waiting.  Some new hardware is needed - last implementation cost the project about $30-40k US including license.  If this cost is not an issue because of size of project, then you might tag in another week of consulting service from Aveva at $5k, they can and will show you more new stuff.  For $5k or so a week, Aveva do provide a decent consulting service to users.

OK, I am done...:martini_shaken:

Excellent points De,

These are the same questions that I also ask when someone needs to get a new satellite set up, because I know that I will end up doing all the admin/support anyway(aslo for the new satellite).
Most of the times the new satellite requests are quickly forgotten when I mention the price, and support time/costs.

I did not bring them up here, as I assumed(maybe completely wrong of me) that harryJoe & Co already had made the decision to go for global in their project.

Another thing I have not mentioned is that global 2 uses 1 global hub license/project, and the satellites also need their own global satellite licenses (1 satellite license/project).

Thank you De for such a great concern and to you Thomas too for continuosly helping me out by spending your valuable time on me without no cost and for the same I feel this Platform is just a heaven for all of us (PDMS users) and now I would like to give the answer for your queries one by one.....
Firstly, what we want to do is we need to setup offices at different locations (outside boundaries) and all these offices will be going to share each other's work whenever some location is at less burden, we just outsource our work to them and that includes both read and write access.
Secondly, we need projects globally (worldwide) and so we want us to be able to fetch more and more customes around the globe which can only be possible if we sit at their own place and satisfy them with our work.
Now,Thomas has rightly guessed our intentions from there that we have already made up our mind to go for global since the person before me had already discussed on this issue with the top management as well in detail and I don't think whether he had discussed anything about this navis...
But anyways, DE....Could you Deliver your information in detail so that I could take a step out and let's see..Is it necessary or not But I guess it's of no use But let's give a try.why to turn back ..let's see..where the ball goes....

Anyways, back to Thomas....Yes...Actually, we are starting from scratch over here so we need to do all the things step by step..By the way we have only Aveva's Catalogue DB at present and need to make other later on and as well as importing any foreign db from outside, it has not been done here so far.

So, let's move ahead...