• Hi...

    I am new to PDMS specon module... I really appreciate if anybody has a copy of Module 22 - Piping Catalogues Specs or any manual that describes a detailed approach to create or modify specs.

    Thanks

    RK
  • as far as I know there is not really good manual on specon. I think there is an old catalog training manual that have a chapter on how spec is created/modified.

    I would recommend you output a spec from the IMP/MAS project, take a look and post any questions you have.

    Specon stores info by asking questions. For piping- if you navigate to the say /A spec, you will see a whole bunch of "Sele" that owns "Sele" that owns "sele" and the bottom is the "SPCO" item which stores the CATREF,DETREF, MATXT, CMPREF,BLTREF info.

    So when you output spec /A you will see sth like this.

    OLD SPECIFICATION /A
    VERSION 1151
    MATREF =0
    FLUREF =0
    RATING 0.000
    LINETYPE NULL
    BSPEC =0

    TEXT 'PIPING'

    HEADING
    NAME       TYPE      PBOR0    SHOP     CATREF    DETAIL    MATXT    CMPREF    BLTREF
    DEFAULTS
      -           -        -       =
    ....


    A couple useful command in specon are:

    1. output a spec from specon to text file
    >ffile /c:\temp\a.txt
    >out old /A
    >term
    2. output a gtyp from specon to text file
    >ffile /c:\temp\a-valv.rpt
    >out old valv /A
    >term
    3.output valve, pcom, inst from /A /B /D spec
    >ffile /c:\temp\zzz.txt
    >out old valv pcom inst /A /B /D
    >term
    4. output an old spec in a new format so you can create a new spec.
    >ffile /c:\temp\New-A-Spec.txt
    >out new /A
    >term
    ...

    There are the basics, then you will need to know the heading default etc.  There is not much to it, and if you have done catalog creation work, spec is a breeze.

    Post more qustions you have as you go along, I will try to answer them when time permits.


    De
  • Thank you for your advise. I will post some questions as I go.
  • Hi RXK,

    You may follow the following guidelines for your cats & specs development.

    1. Established a one (1) letter coding system that matches your engineering specs. Assign a coding system If your engineering specs are too long....see below

    Code     Description
    A        - 1143B Carbon Steel Ansi Class 150

    SPCO Name
    /PIPE:25

    Catref Naming (SCOM)
    A-PIPE-25

    Detail Naming (SDTE)
    A-PIPE-SDTE

    MATX Naming (SMTE)
    A-AA

    2. Find/Select your preferred category from the the PDMS deafult cata and compile it to one "master" catalog folder...see below... (PDMS default cata points to different location...its very confusing)

    CATA A-1143BX.CATA
     CATE A-PIPE.CATE
     CATE A-ELBO45.CATE
     CATE ETC....
     CATE A.SDTE (CONTAINS ALL COMPONENT DESCRIPTION)
     CATE A.SMTE (CONTAINS ALL MATERIAL CODE)
     BLTA A.BLTA

    3. Include/Move you GMSETS & PTSETS under its own CATE
    4. Create one master CATA and edit/check-recheck everything
    5. You may used the master CATA as reference in creating other specs.

    Note: The advantages of one letter coding systems is that its easier for you to point a particular file (few keys to inputs), easy to read and guarantees the uniqueness of your files.

    I hope the above helps your end.

    Ferdinand
  • A couple useful command in specon are:

    1. output a spec from specon to text file
    >ffile /c:\temp\a.txt
    >out old /A
    >term
    2. output a gtyp from specon to text file
    >ffile /c:\temp\a-valv.rpt
    >out old valv /A
    >term
    3.output valve, pcom, inst from /A /B /D spec
    >ffile /c:\temp\zzz.txt
    >out old valv pcom inst /A /B /D
    >term
    4. output an old spec in a new format so you can create a new spec.
    >ffile /c:\temp\New-A-Spec.txt
    >out new /A
    >term
    ...

    There are the basics, then you will need to know the heading default etc.  There is not much to it, and if you have done catalog creation work, spec is a breeze.

    Post more qustions you have as you go along, I will try to answer them when time permits.


    De

    HI
      THE ABOVE PROCEDURE TO EXTRACT SPECS WAS REALLY USEFUL.I HAVE EDITED THE SPEC.NOW I AM TRYING TO INSERT  NEW SPEC IN SPECON....CAN U TELL ME COMMANDS HOW TO INSERT AND WHERE TO INSERT THE SPEC THAT I HAVE MODIFIED.

    THANX IN ADVANCE
  • The same place you have output the spec your input will have to go.
  • [QUOTE=alamdar;32768]A couple useful command in specon are:

    1. output a spec from specon to text file
    >ffile /c:\temp\a.txt
    >out old /A
    >term
    2. output a gtyp from specon to text file
    >ffile /c:\temp\a-valv.rpt
    >out old valv /A
    >term
    3.output valve, pcom, inst from /A /B /D spec
    >ffile /c:\temp\zzz.txt
    >out old valv pcom inst /A /B /D
    >term
    4. output an old spec in a new format so you can create a new spec.
    >ffile /c:\temp\New-A-Spec.txt
    >out new /A
    >term
    ...

    There are the basics, then you will need to know the heading default etc.  There is not much to it, and if you have done catalog creation work, spec is a breeze.

    Post more qustions you have as you go along, I will try to answer them when time permits.


    De

    HI
      THE ABOVE PROCEDURE TO EXTRACT SPECS WAS REALLY USEFUL.I HAVE EDITED THE SPEC.NOW I AM TRYING TO INSERT  NEW SPEC IN SPECON....CAN U TELL ME COMMANDS HOW TO INSERT AND WHERE TO INSERT THE SPEC THAT I HAVE MODIFIED.

    THANX IN ADVANCE


    hi,alamdar

       Have you solve your problem?
       
       As far as I know,if you want to ’INSERT‘ a SPEC,you can use the following commands: NEW SPEC /NEW_SPEC_NAME.
       And if you want to ’INSERT‘ a SPCO or SPCOs,you can firstly edit the input file with Notepad or UE,then $m the file in SPECON command line,just as stated by De_ding,who is baned user(amazing:confused:).Ofcourse you should make the heading default the correct order,such as TYPE & NAME.
     
      Ah,what's the release of PDMS do you use? if 11.SP4,you can refer PDMS SPECON Reference Manual 11.6 for detail.

       Just read it and perform it,guy! You'll find it useful!
  • hi frnds can any one help how to open a .txt file in pdms......we've some command like $m(path) ...but its not working can any1 help me..
  • hi frnds can any one help how to open a .txt file in pdms......we've some command like $m(path) ...but its not working can any1 help me..


    Hi Shrikanth,

    What do you mean "Open", If you want to run the code in the txt file use this.

    $m /
  • hey thanks srinivas ...it worked....thanks for ur reply......and one more doubt ...the files r saved in aveva - pdms-projects....how to recognise our site...and could we change the path....